Curse

Ras Kass · Dec 03, 2006, 12:20 AM // 00:20

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zinger314

I found the secret!

[skill=text]Practiced Stance[/skill]/[skill=text]Choking Gas[/skill]!

Take 2 of these Rangers...

Good info, but do you really need 2?

S_Sword101 · Dec 03, 2006, 12:21 AM // 00:21

What i think is sad, is that there are so many people posting here that don't take the time to think about what they say. ArenaNet didn't HAVE to give us this area, they didn't HAVE to give us Tombs, the Deep, Urgoz, or any of the others. If you think that the game would be better off without this area... then don't play in this area. However, if you decide to make a constructive comment, PLEASE DO SO IN A CIVILIZED MANOR.

Remember people, patience is a virtue, and if we take the time to compile a list of what we can agree needs to be changed, ArenaNet will be more likely to make those changes then if we just keep shouting, "You are teh N00bz ANet. Change this now or i stop playing!" Because to be brutally honest with you, as you all know, ArenaNet doesn't charge for a monthly fee, so you quitting the game has no effect on their choice to continue the game.

However, if we keep telling them that we hate everything that they release, like a majority of you have, then they will be less inclined to release anything new.

Sorry for the over-elaborate post, but i had to get that out there.

Waldir · Dec 03, 2006, 12:21 AM // 00:21

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ras Kass

Good info, but do you really need 2?

i would say u do

AlienFromBeyond · Dec 03, 2006, 12:24 AM // 00:24

Quote:

Originally Posted by S_Sword101

What i think is sad, is that there are so many people posting here that don't take the time to think about what they say. ArenaNet didn't HAVE to give us this area,

Actually, Nightfall was advertised has having an Elite Mission, but when it came out it didn't have it. If Anet hadn't said that they were working on it and it will come out, there would have been hell to pay.

SumXone · Dec 03, 2006, 12:25 AM // 00:25

Quote:

Originally Posted by S_Sword101

However, if we keep telling them that we hate everything that they release, like a majority of you have, then they will be less inclined to release anything new.

they do this for a living, not because they are mother theresas.
it's not like i got this game as a present from anet.

The Ernada · Dec 03, 2006, 12:28 AM // 00:28

Quote:

Originally Posted by SumXone

if people complain about being bored, and anet produces this ugly piece of game design to satisfy them, where the challenge lies only in the masses of overpowered mobs, then maybe, maybe some people have the wrong job.
i could have thought of something better, and i don't even make my living designing games.

i mean come on, at least make it visually apealling! it looks plain ugly down there. why is it that only the easy areas look good in GW and the harder it gets, the uglier the landscape gets? why? why should the places we spend the most time in look so crappy?

anet get some new designers pls.

Man, you are just reaching to find things to complain about arent you?

First it was that the game is too hard. And then the game is too ugly. And since when are evil scary places supposed to look pretty?

Karlos · Dec 03, 2006, 12:28 AM // 00:28

Here are my quick thoughts...

1) Tried with guildies last night, did not have an optimal build cause not everyone got all their chars through yet. We stunk. Hated the place.

2) Tried with pugs this morning, controlling the team build, asking for this and that, and it worked like a charm. We did not even wipe once our first time into Torcqua City. Just basic balanced stuff, warrior tank, Ele nukers, monks and bonding. Just addressed the major problem of the spike damage and we were good. Faced a couple of near wipes. Had 60% DP half-way through the first quest. But the longer we were there, the better we became. Pulling and fighting groups at the edge of their aggro was really the name of the game.

3) As far as Razah, right now it looks like Mission Impossible to acquire him, but in a few weeks, you can simply buy the 4 Gems to access the Elite mission area. Already Margonite Gems are "abundant" and people trying to buy Coffers are only looking for the other 3 types.

Overall, it's a nasty surprise, but after sleeping on it and taking a tightly woven build, it seems fairly doable.

Twitch1977 · Dec 03, 2006, 12:31 AM // 00:31

Quote:

Originally Posted by AlienFromBeyond

Actually, Nightfall was advertised has having an Elite Mission, but when it came out it didn't have it. If Anet hadn't said that they were working on it and it will come out, there would have been hell to pay.

I agree with this 100%. IMO the people saying 'well Anet didn't have to do this so just be thankful' have a very skewed point of view. They said there would be an elite mission, when I (and most I assume) purchased NF we were under the impression there was an elite mission as they had said there would be. Rather than defending ANet saying 'well just be thankful you got it' maybe the correct question is 'why wasn't this in there since the release?' They already backed out of their 'variable profession' razah. :/

I for one won't be bowing down and thanking ANet for finally delivering something that should have been in the game at release.

T

S_Sword101 · Dec 03, 2006, 12:32 AM // 00:32

Quote:

Originally Posted by SumXone

it's not like i got this game as a present from anet.

actually... it is.

They could very well drop GW altogether and start working with Bethesda on the next Elder Scrolls game. They could very easily start working with some other company on something not even closely related to GW. So GW is, in a way, a gift that ANet has offered to sell to us.

Twitch1977 · Dec 03, 2006, 12:35 AM // 00:35

Quote:

actually... it is.

They could very well drop GW altogether and start working with Bethesda on the next Elder Scrolls game. They could very easily start working with some other company on something not even closely related to GW. So GW is, in a way, a gift that ANet has offered to sell to us.

I absolutely guarentee you if they thought there was more money in one of those routes, they would do just that. They are first and foremost a business.

T

blastm · Dec 03, 2006, 12:35 AM // 00:35

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Ernada

Man, you are just reaching to find things to complain about arent you? First it was that the game is too hard. And then the game is too ugly. And since when are evil scary places supposed to look pretty?

they could have done a vabbian palace or a egyptian tomb.
not like the evil had to lurk in a dark&red void.

anyway, nightfall sells aren't on top already, if the word spread that the elite missions are uglier and less interesting than the faction ones, it sure won't helps.

SumXone · Dec 03, 2006, 12:35 AM // 00:35

Quote:

Originally Posted by S_Sword101

actually... it is.

They could very well drop GW altogether and start working with Bethesda on the next Elder Scrolls game. They could very easily start working with some other company on something not even closely related to GW. So GW is, in a way, a gift that ANet has offered to sell to us.

wow. just wow.

you are not by any chance an anet employee?
where is the camera, come on out, you got me! is this going to be on tv?

fyi:
right now, GW is a cash cow, you have the engine, you have a map editor, you have the classes and monsters, you have a playerbase...
all you have to do, is shell out an expansion every 6 months. anet would be insane to sh*tcan that!
and look at the new place: they just recycled the RoT mapsdesign and textures.

Tuesg · Dec 03, 2006, 12:36 AM // 00:36

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zinger314

I found the secret!

[skill=text]Practiced Stance[/skill]/[skill=text]Choking Gas[/skill]!

Take 2 of these Rangers, and the AI Casters, who often clump up, can't do anything. Period. Who cares about 400 Invoke Lightning if they can't do anything about them?

Hehe. Now I just have to find someone willing to confirm...sigh. Everyone is running that stupid Mantra of Frost build. I really need to get my Ranger through NF.

Tested this with some heroes and a mate while we did die eventually from a stupid mistake it did work, in fact we lasted longer than all the PUGs I have been in today.

Gli · Dec 03, 2006, 12:37 AM // 00:37

Quote:

Originally Posted by AlienFromBeyond

I have had it trying to do this with PuGs.

Unfortunately, I'm not in a guild, so that leaves DoA out of the question. I was so looking forward to this too =/.

I've also given up PuGging, and although I am in a guild, I'm still pretty sure I won't be playing those areas any time soon. It'll take ages before we've put a big enough pool of characters and variety in primaries through the entire game to even try as a guild.

Having said that, I don't really care. The areas are terribly ugly, and I do believe ANet forgot to add the fun.

Karlos · Dec 03, 2006, 12:38 AM // 00:38

Oh, just so you know guys... There is a ghost that comes out after you defeat Lord Jadoth, that host offers you a gift in exchange for 25 of EACH type of Gem. i.e. The exepctation is that you can farm 100 of these gems. Not freak out and fail on your way to ONE.

Also, another cool thing is that when you beat him there is a chest that drops one Gem of the type of the monsters you fought (i.e. Margonite Gem from Lord Jadoth, Stygian Gem from the Maw guy). This is cool, it's not like Shards and Ectos where it's completely random. At least you're guaranteed one Gem per run.

Rudhraighe O'Hagan · Dec 03, 2006, 12:39 AM // 00:39

Where are the promised Sunspear Points to go from Rank 8 to rank 9? ~Rud

S_Sword101 · Dec 03, 2006, 12:39 AM // 00:39

Quote:

Originally Posted by SumXone

you are not by any chance an anet employee?

Nope. I'm just someone who enjoys their work and would like to see them continue it.

weaver keras · Dec 03, 2006, 12:41 AM // 00:41

Anet makes money from us, if majority of us voice a problem, they will fix it (note the word majority). The late release of the elite mission, is most likely due to the fact, it wasn't finished or there were major problems (this case i wouldn't want them to release it). Whatever the case, I'm happy with Anet, they are doing a good job (they could always do a GREAT job by increasing the storage space...but thats another story).

Chris616263 · Dec 03, 2006, 12:42 AM // 00:42

Quote:

Originally Posted by AlienFromBeyond

Actually, Nightfall was advertised has having an Elite Mission, but when it came out it didn't have it. If Anet hadn't said that they were working on it and it will come out, there would have been hell to pay.

Oh noez! What what you have done, not buy NF? Oh wait, too late.

Waldir · Dec 03, 2006, 12:42 AM // 00:42

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rudhraighe O'Hagan

Where are the promised Sunspear Points to go from Rank 8 to rank 9? ~Rud

been asking myself that snce friday...